Episode 399: #399 Gutting Your Office with Cheri Gregory Part 1
Kathi chats with her friend and co-author for Overwhelmed and You Don’t Have to Try So Hard, Cheri Gregory. Today they venture into the office where the hidden shrines reside and keep us from progressing in our work.
Today you will learn:
- About the items we keep that become the shrines that define us.
- How to overcome the shame that traps those items in our office.
- How to release the fear of letting go and claim the woman you are today.
Kathi and Cheri discuss their personal stories with office clutter, the emotional reasons behind keeping certain items, and how experiences from their past (such as family influences and professional milestones) affect the way they manage workspaces. They examine the deeper meanings and psychological obstacles (like shame, guilt, and fear) behind decluttering, and share practical and mindset-based strategies for making real change.
Topics also include identifying and releasing the so-called 'shrines' in the office—items kept as symbols of identity or validation—and learning to trust personal growth rather than physical reminders of achievements or relationships.

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About Our Guests

Cheri Gregory
Sensitive and Strong Community Cafe
Resources Mentioned
- The Clutter-Free Home: Making Room for Your Life
Kathi Lipp's book guiding readers through the decluttering process, room by room, to reclaim home space and peace.
- Clutter Free for Life
Kathi Lipp's ongoing program/community for ongoing support with decluttering.
- Writing At The Red House
Writers' retreat and resources, mentioned as the context for part of the discussion.
- Overwhelmed
Book co-authored by Kathi Lipp and Cheri Gregory about managing chaos and restoring sanity.
- You Don’t Have to Try So Hard
Book co-authored by Kathi Lipp and Cheri Gregory on breaking free from expectations.
- Cure for the Perfect Life
Book by Kathi Lipp, referenced by Cheri Gregory during the episode.
- Exhale
Book written by Cheri Gregory with Amy, referenced as material contributing to her office clutter.
- Sensitive & Strong
Book co-authored by Cheri Gregory and Denise, referenced in the conversation about Cheri's projects and clutter.
- Michele Cushatt
Speaker and writer, mentioned as participating in the retreat discussed in the episode.
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